But their blood-soaked Armageddon dreams STILL won't come true. So yeah they might get a boost but life will go on.
fresh prince of ohio
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Will the Watchtower Society benefit from the looming financial collapse?
by redvip2000 inif you have your eyes and ears open and can put 2 and 2 together, you have like many of us, have figured out that there is an impending financial collapse in the united states.
the type of financial collapse that likely has never been seen.. whether you believe this is being done intentionally by global power hungry groups bent on bringing us to our knees, in order to push their agenda, or whether it is being done out of carelessness and stupidity is hardly relevant at this point.. the writing is on the wall.
experts (and all who want to) can see it , high level officials expect it, and are already implementing the contingencies that are needed in order handle the civil unrest that will ensue.
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A question for those that have been around this board for a long time
by JeffT inmy wife and i stopped going to meetings in 1988 and da'd in 1989. for a few years we both actively participated in the xjw world, she quit doing that a long time ago, and has pretty much completely moved on.
the other night i told her about my planned blog (which will probably launch this weekend) it will mostly be about my writing, a lot of which is mostly about jw related issues.
she asked why i am still so drawn to this subject.
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fresh prince of ohio
I've been on this board since 2002 (i used a different forum handle from my current one from 2002 thru 2008).
I've been out of the JWism longer than I was in it, have no family in it (never did), and in my daily life I really don't think about JWs or JWism at all. It's just a weird chapter from my past that seems almost surreal to me now, and I'm fortunate in that I currently have zero personal connections to it. I take a good bit of delight knowing that those hateful, boundary-challenged gossip-hounds (of course not all JWs fit that description, some of them were among the nicest people I've ever known) know NOTHING about my current life other than that I'm still around; I survived.
But, I do remember how incredibly traumatic the Spring of 2002 was for me when I learned TTATT, and I got SO much out of this db back then. It really was a life-saver for me. For much of my time with the JWs I was in the inactive category, which caused me to experience constant guilt and fear. In many ways I came to HATE JWism, but my critical thinking faculties were so nonexistent and I was so propagandized by it all that of course I always felt that I was the problem. My own psychology was of the perfect type that high-control groups are able to exploit, and exploit they did. At the time I found this board, I was really coming apart.
So I feel that this board's existence is so important for people that are going through that same trauma that I did, hence my continued participation. The WT organization does a real number on people, and so I feel that boards such as this one need to not just exist, but to thrive, and so I'm glad to contribute in some small way.
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fresh prince of ohio
Joe Satriani Surfing With the Alien
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Time of Trouble: Knocking on the Door of Jehovah's Witnesses (interesting article)
by ldrnomo infound this article on gawker.com.
check it out i'd like to get your thoughts:.
http://gawker.com/5986407/time-of-trouble-knocking-on-the-door-of-the-jehovahs-witnesses?post=57721553.
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fresh prince of ohio
Good writing. Very few people have even the slightest curiosity about the JWs (something that we exes sometimes forget), so it's interesting to see a person with no connection to it to be able to quickly and thoroughly grasp just what an empty, cold, and zombified thing JWism has become.
The writer captures the KH experience very well - I remember my very liberal Catholic father telling me that he'd like to come to a JW Sunday service sometime (he didn't know anything about the JWs - again like most people he had never paid any attention to them whatsoever). I don't remember exactly what I said but somehow I managed to head him off on that idea. I was mortified at the idea of anyone from my family witnessing first-hand the weirdness I had gotten caught up in, right down to the pre-recorded piano and wince-inducingly awful songs, lol.
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How many of you followed the WTS direction on education years ago and have been screwed by it?
by Julia Orwell ini'm really interested in this question because i've heard for years that if you forgo further education and go pioneering, when you have a family down the track you will get a good job because jehovah will provide for you because you pioneered.
as long as i was a kool-aid drinker, even then, i thought, "how does pioneering pay your bills?
surely education should come first.
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fresh prince of ohio
I'm not smart enough to write the type of papers that you need to write in order to earn a 4-year college degree so kinda neither here nor there on whether I was "screwed" by the anti-education propaganda that the WTS was putting out during my stint among the Jeehoobies. A situation at the KH I attended really annoyed me though - a married couple in their mid-20s moved into the cong from another city - bro was raised in da twoof, but had gone to college and earned not only a BA but a MBA as well, and was making BANK working at a local energy company, and oh how they were the DARLINGS of the congregation. ugh it just was so utterly barfacious.
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Reasons for becoming a JW?
by Dubby ini'm curious about the reasons for becoming a jw.
if you were raised a jw, were you pressured into baptism?
if you weren't raised a jw, what were the deciding factors?
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If you weren't raised a JW, what were the deciding factors? Was research outside the org. done? Were you impressed by your study conductor? Were you lonely and wanted fellowship? Were you looking for the "truth" and said HA! I found it!? Did you meet a JW and fall in love?
Year was 1992. No internet as we know it today, so "research outside the org" was not so easy in those days, and I wasn't much of a researching type anyway. And, truth be told I was so instantly hooked by it all that I wasn't inclined to look at it critically. I remember my mom trying to get me to discuss JWs with a priest, lol. I refused. All of the reasons you mentioned played a part in my conversion, as well as others - gaining freedom from fear of the apocalypse and death (huge), a narcotic-like infusion of a sense of purpose and exclusivity; rebellion against my krazy katholic mom (little did i know how crazy a lot of JW mothers are); etc. I was very lonely, my late teen/young adult years had been pretty disastrous and I felt very lost in the world. JWism came along and I fell in love with it.
I am ashamed to say that as a young man of 21, I did virtually no research at all. I was impressed by the JW's I studied with, and the literature sounded so convincing! Such pretty pictures! This HAD to be the truth! I look back and wondered why I could be so gullible. Why did I treat my wife so badly when she wouldn't accept it? She actually called me an a**hole because of my arrogance. But, I digress. People get suckered into scams every second of the day. Did we get scammed? I guess P.T. Barnum was right
I was the same age, same experience, same current bewilderment at how easily I was taken in by it.
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As a JW, how did you feel about shunning?
by jwfacts ini am interested in the answers for a new poll.
also, feel free to suggest other options, wording etc.agreed in full with the watchtower guidelinesagreed with shunning in general, but not for familywas stumbled by this practice but shunned as instructeddid not agree with the practice and secretly associated with disfellowshipped people .
for me personally, i did not agree with the practice and secretly associated with disfellowshipped people, even whilst at bethel.
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fresh prince of ohio
I was a lonely isolated JW living in a big city with no family in da troof so the only times i ever was in a position to perform shunning duty was when I ignored the seated-at-the-back-of-the-kingdom-hall repenters.
There was a local situation that underscored how ridiculous it all was - two dudes from different families, both very obviously gay from an early age, one of them went along with the program and got baptized at age 12 or something, while the other never did. Both came out of the closet as young adults. So the guy that got dunked at age 12: SHUNNED FOR LIFE BY EVERYBODY HE EVER KNEW. The other guy - unimpeded contact with his family.
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Going to 9:30 am meeting. Oh Joy...NOT! Cliques anyone??
by OneStepOut93 inyep.
curling my lashes and putting on pant hose to be"modest" and ready for all the dribble that's going to be said.
*sigh* plus i have to deal with mary-sue or little miss perfect as i call her.
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fresh prince of ohio
I feel your pain. Hang in there!
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What was the best KISS you ever experienced?
by Terry inthe phone rang in the art gallery and i answered.. the voice was a young woman's.. one of her two parrots had died rather suddenly.. she wanted a colorful frame for the memorial portrait.
could we accomodate her?.
the remaining bird was sulking.. i suggested parrots without partners.. i don't where my tasteless jokes come from.
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the one that I've never forgotten came when i was 16 years old, riding in the back of my friend's International Scout (lol), there was a group of about 5 or 6 of us going somewhere (can't remember where) and I was sitting next to this girl that I had just started "going with" and hadn't kissed yet. At one point i looked over at her and she at me and we went in for a kiss and it wasn't even a long one but whoa it was nice. She had the face of an angel, so so cute.
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14 months after printing the "Steve and Selma" article, guess what the Society's latest Awake is about...
by cedars inyou guessed it.... .
http://www.jw.org/download/?fileformat=pdf&issue=201304&output=html&pub=g&langwritten=e&option=trgchlzrqvnyvrxf&txtcmslang=e.
cedars.
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These "An end to <insert problem>" Afake! stories got to where they made my head hurt and I felt utterly ridiculous offering such sugar-coated nonsense to Householders™, knowing that the promised end to the problem-of-the-week according to JW beliefs means a massive apocalypse where bilions of people meet a violent death, coming very soon to a planet near you. Yeah they drop that one on you later.
The absurdity of it still makes my head spin. Not to even mention all the coded, between-the-lines counsel such articles contain for current dubs. ugh.